Yes I do understand that this message board is for Isle of Man but not knowing exactly where my ancestors came from and knowing that they could be from the Isle of Man I was hoping that someone could help me out. I do thank you for the "hot tip" that the surnames could be Irish though lol I am curious however if you speak for everybody here Frances Or is your message relaying that everybody on here will be as unhelpful as you appear to be? I've always considered my Irish ancestors and family to be very helpful and kind, even to strangers and if this is the tone of kindness that I can expect to receive then I'm just wasting my time....apparently.