John, the information I have on Elizabeth Creer came from , I think, Donna Douglas. Thomas Creer and Elizabeth Fayle were the parents of Elizabeth born 11-5-1807 in Marown. I have this on your Creer Website. John Caine and Elizabeth Creer were married in 8-21-1836 in Bradden. I would love to extend or change this line if you have further data. Thanks for the reply.