Frances, Many thanks for the reply. Our John has really been a problem, hope to solve it soon. So many stories to check out. The 1920 Ohio USA census gave his birth place Rochester, Engl. Just feel perhaps another family member might have gone to Australia.-But- the ship he was on came to the US. Do not know where he arrived here, where he was for at least 10 yrs. before he married in W. Va...., has been a challenge, but I am determined Ethel Canton, Ohio Football Hall of Fame City