Many thanks Donald, for replying to my query and for the trouble taken to give such detail of the Census. Yes that is my William. He moved to Liverpool with his wife and son James and his wife in 1861. Elizabeth died in 1864 in Birkenhead. William lived with James and Sarah until his death in 1883. I can pretty well track the sneaky little blighter from his marriage in 1847 on. It's BEFORE then that I'm having problems. I think anybody reading film or records sees Cowell rather than Conwell. I will keep trying. Just think of the enormous satisfaction when I finally FIND OUT!!! Thanks again Donald. Regards, Billee.