The reason I asked is that occupations such as shoemaker could be quite transitory unless he was in business for himself employing several men.
A more productive search would be for John, 13, son of John - which turned up nothing in 1851 but in 1841 there was:
Patrick, district 5, page 23, Intack
Patrick Quirk, 60, farmer
Isabella, 55
John, 25, mine labourer
Esther, 40
John, 3
Ann, 9 months
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