Dear All,

So far I have traced back as far as Frank Murray Gelling born Hamilton, New Zealand, Father James Mansfield Gelling son of James Gelling and Martha Robinson,James Mansfield Gelling was Christened 1 February 1836,in Saint Peter Anglican Church, Liverpool, England, co-incidently I was born 1 February 1956,his parents were married in the Saint Nicholas Anglican Church, Liverpool, Lancashire, England 12 May 1828, other children were Mary Ann Gelling, Christened 2 July 1833, Saint Peter, Liverpool, Andrew Gelling, Christened 20 Jan 1839, Saint Peter, Liverpool, James Gelling was a Customs Officer.
If anyone reading this is descended from Andrew or Mary Ann and knows how James Gelling husband of Martha Robinson ties back into the Isle of Man that would be greatly appreciated. Sorry if I have written a book, I have the New Zealand end tied down quite well but the link to the Isle of Man is the key to this one!!

Best Regards
Peter H van Kampen(Paul Gelling)

PS. James Mansfield Gelling married Miss Mary Anne Murray(Born Dublin,Ireland), daughter of James Murray(Publican) and Margaret Murray formerly Connor, James Mansfield(1908) is buried with his second son Douglas Warner Gelling(1904) who preceded him in death by 4 years, at All Saints Anglican Church, Howick, New Zealand.Mary Anne Gelling(1912)formerly Murray is buried separately in the "Our Lady Star of the Sea" Catholic Church in Howick, New Zealand. Howick is a very famous "Fencibles settlement in New Zealand).

The children of James Mansfield & Mary Anne were all born in Hamilton while James was Town Clerk.

William Mansfield born 1870 died Auckland 1957 age 87
Douglas Warner born 1874 died Bay of Plenty? buried Howick 1904 age 33
Frank Murray born 1876 died Rarotonga, Cook Islands 1944 age 68
Martha Selina born 1877 died Auckland 1945 age 68
Geoffry Hamilton born 1878 died unknown 1951 age 73

William Mansfield & Frank Murray all had issues, Douglas Warner & Martha Selina never married, at this point I have been unable to validate Geoffry Hamilton having issue.