Mathias Caines
Mathias 1765-1857 md Margaret Quark 1809
Onchan MI
J 10
In memory of Margaret wife of Mathias Caine and
daughter of Daniel Quark of Ballacottier in this
parish who departed this life 29th August 1832
aged 53 years
Also of Mathias Caine of Douglas husband of the
above who departed this life 10th April 1857
aged 93 years
Also of two of their infant children
He was s/o William Caine/Alice Christian
Onchan Old Yard
J 8
Sacred to the memory of ALICE CAIN alias CHRISTIAN wife of WILLIAM CAIN of Ballig and Anamona of this parish who departed this life 27th Dec 1807 aged 71 years
also of the above named WILLIAM CAIN who departed this life 23rd Nov 1812 aged 79 years
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Mathias who d 1853 was b 1778 Onchan--mar Ellinor/Ellen Lewin 1802 Braddan
He was s/o John Caine Ballachrink Onchan and Mary Christian
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Mathias age 80 who d 1872 was ch 1793 s/o John Caine/Margaret Kewley
He was md 1819 to Jane Caine and I have NO idea which Caine line she's from
I think these are the people
1841 Index
Douglas 6 29 167
Cain
Matthew 47
Jane 45
Martha 3 (must be Mathias)
1851 Douglas
8 Shaw's Brow
Mathias Cain head married 36 (56) carpenter b Braddan
Jane wife married 36(56) b Onchan
Mathias son 13 b Douglas
Elizabeth dau 17 b Douglas
Judith 64 laundress b Patrick
1861
1 279
Mathias Cain 68 b Braddan
Jane 65 b Onchan
1871
6 115
South Quay
Mathias Cain 33 house carpenter
Margaret 35
John M 8
William 4
Mathias father 80 former carpenter widower
The younger Mathias 1837-1916 was md Margaret Ann Collister 1861 and Maria Hampton 1872
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Mathias the baker who died 1860 was ch 1805 Marown s/o Thomas Caine of Ballagrove/Ballagrane Marown & Margaret Kermode
Mathias was md first to Ann Lawson 1826 and had 4 children. Their William b 1827 md Jane Cannell 1855 Braddan
After Ann died in 1834 he mar Catherine Ann Craine d/o Robert Craine/Judith Sayle and they had 9 children
Several of our current board members are related to this Caine line.
If you have made copies of the will of Mathias and/or Cath I would luv to have copies. My email is djdorca at sign comcast.net
There are a bunch of Mathias Caines from this one line
I have all of this info in my database and can make gedcom files for anyone who might need them.
I was totally thrilled when I first encountered a Mathias Caine as I thought this would be a wonderful change from John and William. Little did I know.
Donna
As for all the Matthias'. There are more listed on the burial index then are wills for. The 92 yr old who died in 1857 and was married to Marg Quark - there is no will for him that i could find. I checked the wills for Daniel and Ann Quark who were Margs parents and again nothing to tie them to William. I also think they were too old anyway. If he was 92 in 1857 then he would have beenin his 60s when William was born and Margaret late 40s.Possible but not a strong contender.
The Matthias who died in 1853 age 75 can find no will for. Im kind of a little lost as to who he was with all the mathhias'
Matthais who died age 80 can find no will for.
The only other will was for Matthias who died 1863 #106464#111. He died in 1860 (cannot work out why he is not on the burial list) He was a baker and left Catherine Crane Cain a widdow. She actually lived till 1896. The will left by Matthias is quite difficult to read in places but there is a list of petitioners of which there is a William. Others are children listed on 51 census. The petition was submitted because Catherine was not doing anything to get the will proved. NOthing else is mentioned as regards the children. The will was sorted and everything went to her. When she died in 96 she left the bakery to Thomas who she was living with in the 91 census. No mention is made of any other children. William was dead anyway but i wondered if his wife would have been left anything but as no one is mentioned again i cannot tie them together.
The MAtthias who died age 40 in 1852, although no contender, i thought you might like to know i have the will and he was a joiner of some sorts. He died leaving no offspring and his brother John Cain was sworn in to administrate. He had a business and built homes etc from what i could translate. Will # 106453 #60.
Matthias who died age 87 in 1852 was i think the schoolteacher whose will is online #106452 #35 and does not tie to William.
So there you have it. As far as i can see i cannot tie anyone to my William. As far as i understand - and i might be worng - we kind of got caught up with the Matthias because of Frances provisionally tieing him to Matthais and MArg Quark and we were trying to ascertain which Matthias he was because of incorrect ages being declared on census but now we see they are too old.
I think i am back to square one as they say.
I hope all this makes sense. Let me know if you would like any of the info i have from the wills for your records. I have full copies of #106464#111 and 106452#60 - just notes for the others.
I so appreciate your help on this. If you should stumble accross anything else let me know.
Jackie