Thank you so much! Is it possible that William's 1st wife was Elinor. I remember finding something about an Elinor. It was a long time ago and I don't have all my notes in front of me. Are you meaning that Robert's wife was Margt Wade instead of Cleator? Sorry sometimes I get lost in all the same names. I have seen that will and felt that may be it. But with there being so many branches with the same first names was not sure. But I just have this feeling that it is....maybe wishful. How would I know for sure? Sorry, I am sort of new at some of these records. Ok, just reread and I think that I get it. Margt wade mother of Robert senior. Sorry.