Hi Sue,

Many many thanks for that information. The past few days have sorted out a lot of problems on the family of Henry William Corrin and Mary Ann Joughin, not least the dates of death of the two people. A few more points of detail;

We know that Mary Ann lived in Cook County, Chicago, Illinois, and died on 18 Aug 1891. Does anyone have any idea how I can find out which cemetery ?

Th children I had found were :-

Christiana Frances
Charlotte Chapman
John Powell
Josephine Annie (died as infant)
William John Joughin (died aged 8)
Lydia C (C -unknown)
Josephine Annie (2nd)

I ASSUME that Josephine 2 is the Jessie referred to in the MI that Mary M found at German, unless anyone has any ideas to the contrary.

Christiana Frances went to the US c1888 with the family and returned to marry Arthur Brown in Liverpool in 1889, and settled in Peel and later Ramsey.

CHarlotte, John Powell and Lydia went to the states and I know that John Powell married in Cook County, Chicago in 1896, but I have not traced marriages for the girls. My mother said they both married German immigrants to the US; both has sons who served in the US army in WW1 and both came to the Island on the first HOMECOMING in the 1920s, but I have not got further than that.

The next point is the names of the children. With the exception of Lydia, we know their second names, but she is just Lydia C.

John Christiana have Joughin associations, but the rest do not fit known Corrin or Joughin ancestors. Henry W Corrin's mother was Charlotte Chapman (so explains the second daughter's names). She married Henry Corrin at Arbory on 19 Dec 1830, but died aged 41 on 24 May 1851, after what I believe are two stillbirths on 19 May, marked as SABRA in the register. Does anyone know what Sabra means ?

Also, the only data in the 1851 census is that she was born in England, so has an English date of birth c1810.

I have tried to find an English Chapman family in the IOM c1830 with no obvious success, and I have also tried to see if I can find an English Chapman family who have an association with "Powell" as that has no other provenance.

Christiana Frances reused Powell, so the name wasseen as important and the only likely provernance is the Chapman family.

There was at least one IOM Chapman family and an Irish couple named Chapman in Onchan, in the 1830s-1840s, but they do not seem to fit happily. Does anyone have any thoughts.

Charlotte Chapman is my biggest post 1800 mystery now, as she just surfaces in 1830 and dies 21 years later.

Robert